cwg
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Post by cwg on May 7, 2008 15:46:49 GMT -8
I see no point as to why people come on and get pissed over the dam game, i mean seriously, if you honestly think ur the best out there then you have issues. I know for a fact that there are people better than me out there and I admit that which is why i continuously create innovative ways to improve myself, unless they are blatently hacking with 100 percent proof (speculation and comparing them to what the ideal good player to you doesnt count) then i just politely leave if i do get that pissed off.
Anyways enough with the bs, i honestly dont know why certain admins on this server would abuse their power based off of speculation and personal perception of the situation, i mean if you are to be an effective admin u need to understand and respect certain liberties of people regardless if you are getting killed or not. There is no point in abusing powers and permitting violations of certain rules such as tking just because you have a hunch that a person is hacking. Spec them and if you cant find anything just ask them to leave if you are that uncomfortable with them in the server.
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Post by Mechhd_Few on May 7, 2008 16:10:28 GMT -8
It would of been polite to mention what game you were playing so people would know what server you were talking about. Oh well without that pertinent information all I can say is good luck on your complaint and suggest that you be a little more specific next time. Hey that would be an innovative improvement.
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Post by cwg on May 7, 2008 16:41:16 GMT -8
this address is not intended for a specific server or game, rather the administrative quality of all servers. Regardless of what game i play, the same administrators that once misused certain privileges there would most probably reapply the same mistakes on any new game they adapt given the opportunity.
but if u really want specifics, it was the counter strike source server.
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Post by Bubbles_Few on May 7, 2008 16:56:13 GMT -8
I would suggest it's worthwhile to note that what a person would do one day is not the same as what a person would do another day. Thinking people are consistent is naive. I can believe admins on any server can misread something, or they could have had a day where people were lying to them at work or in their social life and so they were naturally more suspicious. Bottom line, if Few servers were consistently bad, there wouldn't be so many people playing on them. And if they're occasionally bad, well that has it being like pretty much the entire rest of the planet. I'm sure the original poster has also taken action in his or her life that may have later been seen as inadvisable or inappropriate, whether that was because you found out your mom got cancer that day, or if you just misunderstood something. I think a lot of things would run a lot more smoothly if people didn't use perfection as the reference standard. All that said, as a member, I do hope you were treated as fairly as you could be given what the admin thought was going on. But even if that wasn't the case, it doesn't mean the admins are bad.
peace. bubs
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Post by cwg on May 7, 2008 17:41:24 GMT -8
thanks for your opinion bubbs , but perfection was not a compository element for my argument. The implication i intended to introduce was the fact that people in general are curious, such curiosity when directed properly can lead to both personal strive and success in the respective field. Just because certain people have elevated abilities as a direct result of this passion does not justify the detrimental acts directed upon them. I am not stating that the universal administration is bad, but rather presenting the issue that administrators should not let their temper corrupt their judgement.
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Post by kittensinsanity on May 7, 2008 18:46:40 GMT -8
OK, the big words were confusing me a tad but i got the jist of this complaint .And i agree with it , I'm sure some Admins here have abused powers but in there eyes it isn't abusing its doing the right thing and it doesn't necessarily mean that they are just angry or frustrated maybe just to quick to judge. But if this is about u being kicked I'm sure that we have all gone over that u don't hack but are just really good.... . I have personally witnessed a kicking and banning of a player with a score of like...79-19 or something and there was no evidence of hacks which kinda ticked me off because i get scores like that all the time and so do other Few , so once again i think its just quick judgment , So i say to people who are quick to judge (including me) Think before u act!!
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Post by HadA_Few on May 7, 2008 19:11:32 GMT -8
Listen it's very simple , if you dont like it leave ! Hey I said that with out saying Fuck Off ! Well I will say it now Iam allways quick to judge so be prepared for quick response Fuck Off Now ! KICK ! It's Good to be the Admin ! Whats that ? you wanna suck my what ? Ok yes thats just childish but damn I like being Admin , the sence of power is fucking awesome .
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Post by kittensinsanity on May 7, 2008 20:25:49 GMT -8
So u think its ok to just kick people because they are good? that aint right
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Post by Synthetic on May 7, 2008 21:45:08 GMT -8
LMAO, kittens.
I'm only in the CSS server once in a blue moon lately, but if someone kicked/banned you because they percieved you to be hacking, than whatever. Dont talk about how people complain of good players, we thoroughly enjoy good players and even awsome players that do wipe the floor with us. The only way to get better at anything is to play/practice with others who are more skilled. Think that was mentioned in more collegiate wording. I'm more of a fuckin simpleton myself.
Anyway, kind of mixture of what has already been said: Any member of The_Few is an admin on the servers unless otherwise having that privlidge taken away due to "problems". We tend not to have much for problems. If all your complaint is, is that "Me play good, you get mad, you kick me", boo hoo. If your not banned, just come back and play further. And if your that good that you cleaned house and you were banned, theres plenty of servers out there that you can play on other than this one that apparently in your opinion has corrupt admins. Personally, if i think your being a fuqtard, goof, shithead....i'll time bomb you and fuck with you until you leave. If i see you as hax, your gone already without any lil voice saying "maybe he wasnt". So if that admin you speak of was screwin with you as far as TKs and stuff like that....chances are they saw you as being a fucktard and were acting accordingly.
Our CSS server has built up good sized group of "regulars", so if your that unhappy, honestly, we're not that sorry to see you go.
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Post by Bubbles_Few on May 8, 2008 15:27:44 GMT -8
I think in a strange way you made my point cwg. You're once again expecting a kind of consistency that isn't possible in the real world, and if you keep expecting, you'll just keep running into situations like the one you found yourself in.
Firstly, Kittens is right. I've heard him in Vent sticking up for good players who he feels were inappropriately banned. At the same time, if some player is so good that he's driving all the other players off the server, then one could fairly claim that it isn't fair to kick someone because they're good, but it's an equally good argument for an admin to say that he didn't want to lose everyone off the server because of it. Can you see it's a matter of which priority you have? None is "right," it's just which one is applied. There is more than one right answer to most problems.
Over and above that, admins aren't just admins. They're people. So if you think you don't act or play differently based on the kind of day you had, then that too is naive. I've been friends with a guy for over 20 years. We've played hockey against each other for 17. A couple weeks ago he started shoving me and generally acting very aggressive and unsportsmanlike. His own goalie asked me what was up with him and I said I didn't know, but I was giving him the benefit of a doubt because he'd always been a decent guy. The next week the guy came in and apologized. His father-in-law had died just before the game. Classy of him to apologize. Understandable that his head-space was different. And you don't just need death for something like that. Hell, all a guy has to have is a constant stream of interruptions and his patience will wane.
So Synthetic's point is well taken. If the Few servers sucked, then people wouldn't play on them. If the Few admins were assholes, they wouldn't have so many fine friends--as I'm sure you do. But mistakes and miscalculations are made all the time, by all people. If you choose to focus on those, I'm sure you can make anywhere look unpleasant. So Syns point is true. If you like it, play with us. If you don't, don't. But don't expect absolute consistency, because no human can do that. If the Dalai Lama can talk about how bad his temper is, then I think we all deserve a little latitude. You included.
peace. bubs
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Post by Mechhd_Few on May 8, 2008 17:19:36 GMT -8
You guys kill me. All those words to tell someone to Fuck off.
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Post by HadA_Few on May 8, 2008 18:21:42 GMT -8
Kittens your too sensitive kind of like Filthy , you need more of who gives a shit attitude ! If the dude wasnt hacking , we may have made a mistake So What He will survive and go on too enoy other people in other server's , so who gives a fuck Get over it Dude ! Be more like Mechhd_Few now there's a non sensitve mean Mother Fucker . We will have a talk about it when you wash my BALL's On The Golf Course .
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Post by Bubbles_Few on May 8, 2008 18:32:31 GMT -8
Kittens, if he asks you to wash his balls behind the golf course, it's a trick. Mepps told me he fell for that last year, and now his farts sounds like the wind whistling past a knothole.
peace. bubs
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Post by Synthetic on May 9, 2008 5:50:30 GMT -8
You guys kill me. All those words to tell someone to Fuck off. Yeah, thats basically what all my words were boiling down to. LOL Ever since Bubbles came around with his edjumacated talkin, i ben on dis har sope box.
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Post by Bubbles_Few on May 9, 2008 7:58:33 GMT -8
Sorry about that. I hope you'll forgive me. I used to laugh my ass off at the guy who rewrote the saying "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king," to, "In the land of the bliind, the one-eyed man is stoned to death." ;D
peace. bubs
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Post by vyper28 on May 12, 2008 22:00:08 GMT -8
Well, i don't know what happened, AGAIN, but ffs we've been through this time and time again with cwg. I've played with him for close to 2 years now i believe. I've watched him steadily get better, while i stayed the same. When i first started playing with him he was better then me by a lil bit. I could kill him, but more often then not i was dead before i got the chance. 2 years has past, and i have taken breaks, stopped playing cs:s, moved onto other games. All that time, he's been playing in tournies. Cal, cpl, ogl you name it, i've seen him tagged for a clan. I'm sick of fighting with the other admins over this, and i've stated my oppinion. He's good, and good players increase the skill level on the server. Playing football with all the kids from the downsyndrome crew aint gonna make you a better QB. Stop kicking our servers good players, instead watch them, learn from them, get better.
I challenge any of you to find the real SHAGUAR in a game and play with him for 10 rounds. I met this guy in richmond at E-Spot, he played and won 4 seasons in a row of CAL profession. I watched him play, I saw his screen, it was amazing. Some people get to a point were muscle memory takes over and they no longer rely on the lowly reflexes we are used to, they know how far to move the mouse and they know what order to check the corners. Watching him i could swear he knew were everyone was, all the time, but i could also see his screen.
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Post by Synthetic on May 13, 2008 9:59:03 GMT -8
I know what your saying Vyper, i've seen good players aswell. The point is, if your thought to be hax on The_Few, your out. We know we're not pro, doesnt mean ppl have to come on here and rub our noses in it, Vyper. If your too good for the server your picked out. Its not a server for that high a skill, plain and simple. Its supposed to be a fun server, so the admins keep it that way for everyone. Because lets face it, if that guy is that good, wtf would he want to be playing on The_Few for anyway. Back when i was playing well, I was rolling with Dead-O and Dead^Bodies on other servers and hardly played The_Few. Because if i played on The_Few, there wasnt much challenge...well, except the fact that i would be lagging horribly....esp now that i'm on this crap wireless, welfare connection.
Think i've made my point. I'm not claiming to ever have been up there with Dead-O or Bodies, just saying that at one point i was good enough to be getting banned from other servers...same situation as CWG here. I didnt worry about it, just felt like "hey, kudos to me" and moved on to another server that would not be so noobish. And eventually found my way to like EA and other servers that had competitive players playing.
I'm finished with this thread. No more whinning from wanna be uber 1337s, kk thnx. Dont like the server, fuck off, find some where better to play anyway, thats my word.
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Post by Mechhd_Few on May 13, 2008 19:00:16 GMT -8
And I just thought that He was kicked for being a fucktard.
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Post by Synthetic on May 14, 2008 4:38:46 GMT -8
lol, yeah....that too.
I thought the argument was over "skill"....u know, americans, gotta jump in the pool before noticing what its filled with.
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Post by KAZ_Few on May 14, 2008 12:54:54 GMT -8
lol, yeah....that too. I thought the argument was over "skill"....u know, americans, gotta jump in the pool before noticing what its filled with. an arguement over "skill" in the Few Forums ? WTF ?
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