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Post by Bubbles_Few on Jan 6, 2008 13:39:23 GMT -8
Hey All.
Saw a thread welcoming Ranger back. Have had the pleasure of playing with him the first time over the last few weeks. Great guy, fun to CS with. The thread that welcomed him back brought up an interesting point.
While I'm FoF, not Few, my natural inclination to contribute (where, in this case, my design skills fit) has lead me to wonder about The Few's "logo." I understand and agree that the the syntax for _Few members is best left consistent, but I'm curious as to whether or not there was discussion about its form. This is also not to suggest I'm advocating any change. Mostly I'm just curious and thought a discussion would expose whether or not I might be useful in some small way.
If this has already been discussed and decided, that's all I need to know. But if it was one of those not-really-decided-decisions that happen in life, then I thought I would bring it up for discussion. Was it immediately _Few or were there considerations of other forms (i.e. >ҒΞW ●ƒ٤١٧ |F∑W or ≈ғєω) or even non-linguistic logos, rather than forms of words?
If folks wanted to review and consider other options for it, it might be fun for guys to experiment with various forms. At the same time, I'm cool with it the way it is, so I guess I'll wait to see the response to see if I'm on to something that actually interests anyone.
Hope to get on line to play with you guys later today.
peace. bubs
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Post by magus on Jan 6, 2008 16:23:53 GMT -8
I am not a l337 hacker, i like the alphabet...
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Post by Bubbles_Few on Jan 6, 2008 22:48:53 GMT -8
I'm gonna have to google l337 to see what that is....
Hmmm. Pretty ambiguous term by Wikipedia's standards. I'm not a hacker, but it can mean hackers and you noted not wanting to be ID'd that way. At the same time, I am a noob and I have been mocked, and since it can be a mock of a noob too.... (I note though, that for one map tonight, for half the game, I was outscoring both Dead^Bodies AND Mandrew. That said, next map I sucked so bad Bodies was mocking me, so.... ) And then of course, it can refer to non-alphabet letters, and you also noted that. Whether it's not liking non-traditional characters or not liking a possible association with hackers, I think I get the basic basis for your personal preference which is fine. Thanks for the feedback.
peace. bubs
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Post by magus on Jan 6, 2008 23:04:00 GMT -8
Damn man, takin it all a little serious are we?
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Post by cssranger on Jan 6, 2008 23:37:03 GMT -8
Thx Bubbles enjoyed fraggin' with you too.
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Post by Synthetic on Jan 7, 2008 11:19:24 GMT -8
Bubbles, when The_Few started there wasnt so much l337 speak. In shogo, matter of fact, the clans all started in MSN Gaming Zone, so being able to have those characters you've shown werent used. I'm not sure if they even could have been. No one was really trying to use those symbols back then. So its more or less just been _Few due to tradition.
I dont we have much call to change it really, though i do see the point in bringing it up with how elaborate other tags have become. Maybe if we put together a scrim/cal team we can use something more elaborate...as kind of a mark of the warrior or something. ;D
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Post by Filthy_Few ♂ on Jan 7, 2008 13:10:54 GMT -8
Syn hit it right on the head, back in the Shogo days we couldn't put fancy shmancy tags on our names. We haven't changed our _Few tag since then (1999), thats not to say we couldn't change our tag, it just has to be voted on by all _Few members to have the change done. We (The_Few) can have our own names in any format we want, but the tag has to be the same as all the rest of the clan. This not only shows we are all in the same clan to other people, it shows no ranks among us because we are all equal once a full _Few member. The main thing about the tag is that it has to be the same for all members. In other clans they have a tier system to show where they stand in the clan (rank).........we do not have this because.............again..............we are equal.
Anything can be changed, but it has to be voted on to have that change made.
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Post by Bubbles_Few on Jan 7, 2008 16:05:37 GMT -8
Thanks for the info guys.
One of the things I love about The Few is the egalitarianism. Once a good set of clan values is established there is no longer really a need for rank. I can understand that more military-styled clans or other groups might like the factor of having to earn a rank, but I personally prefer The Few's plan.
When it comes to how that's written, it sounds like it was more a product of the times than any conscious plan--which was why I brought it up. It wasn't that I was suggesting changing it; but I did think if it had happened as it had, that members might find it fun to even just consider other options. Even if it did go as far as to some kind of member vote, you guys might choose to keep it the way it is.
I do like the additional suggestion of there being a version that gets used in competition. I've certainly seen some clan insignias that were pretty nicely designed. I know on The Few server, I've seen others in chat also comment positively on one clan's version or another.
So again, I leave it for precisely the kind of discussion that has evolved. If it's something you Few members decide you'd be interested in even casually considering, I'd be happy to invest some time and energy in coming up with some options (as I suspect others might too). I'll wait and see what everyone thinks.
peace. bubs
PS had to edit this... I forgot to ask; what's a scrim, and what's a cal?
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Post by HuheyGroove_Few on Jan 7, 2008 16:21:26 GMT -8
We ain't Fucking changing it. Asci is better left asci...
And what Syn and Filth said.
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Post by KAZ_Few on Jan 7, 2008 16:55:38 GMT -8
I am to old to change and bubbles STOP useing big wurds  |
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Post by Humpa_Few on Jan 7, 2008 18:58:44 GMT -8
do egalitarians eat eagle scouts or just eagles
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Post by ---@1--- on Jan 7, 2008 19:09:40 GMT -8
egalitarianism=Fancy talk Dumb it down or you'll make Kaz dizzy and he could fall and hurt someone !  Dude you smoking pot and theorizing about whether we're just a speck of sand on a small rock on a bigger rock under a river on another planet in another galaxy..... |
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Post by Mechhd_Few on Jan 7, 2008 20:34:20 GMT -8
This thread is so full of bullshit. If we like what is going on in the _Few , then why are we even having a thread about changing it. Fuck it if you don't like the tag the way it is go to some clan with a fancy schancy tag.
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Post by Bubbles_Few on Jan 8, 2008 1:56:58 GMT -8
I certainly wasn't complaining or advocating (if neither of those words makes Kaz dizzy  ) It was an idea simply put up for discussion, and wasn't intended to be threatening to the status quo. Oops. Latin. There I go again.  Sorry Kaz.  peace. bubs. |
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Post by Filthy_Few ♂ on Jan 8, 2008 2:35:15 GMT -8
We ain't Fucking changing it. Asci is better left asci... And what Syn and Filth said. This thread is so full of bullshit. If we like what is going on in the _Few , then why are we even having a thread about changing it. Fuck it if you don't like the tag the way it is go to some clan with a fancy schancy tag. The above quotes are Groovy and MechHD's way of saying...... THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS UP! You will never know unless you ask................never be afraid to ask...............no matter how PAINFULL. hehe |
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Post by HaKKa_Few on Jan 8, 2008 5:45:38 GMT -8
wow this is funny |
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Post by weez on Jan 8, 2008 7:44:17 GMT -8
Old guys + change=oil + water Simple math.... |
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Post by Synthetic on Jan 8, 2008 9:44:56 GMT -8
LOL
Its like an old person getting a new car. "OnStar?? WTH?! I just want to turn the radio on!"
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Post by Bubbles_Few on Jan 8, 2008 13:52:37 GMT -8
Hey, I said I wanted feedback. I didn't anticipate it all being positive.  While Aristotle said that a sign of wisdom is the ability to consider an idea without necessarily accepting it, I'm not foolish enough to think there won't be some for whom even the consideration itself is troublesome. To each their own. "Different opinions" is just another way of saying "individuality." I'm still curious what others think. peace. bubs. |
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Post by ---@1--- on Jan 8, 2008 21:54:13 GMT -8
See thats what I like about Bubbles... Not even Mech or Groove can rattle his cage ! ;D That says alot. Always question...or no one will think about something new.
Filthy you are a great interpretor, without you new people would think Groove and Mech mean something completely different ! LOL.
As for Groove and Mech I always love your straight forward STFU attitude always makes me smile and feel like the world isn't getting painted beige and full of Democrats when political correctness is thrown out the window. Its alway good to stir the pot every now and then.
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) It was an idea simply put up for discussion, and wasn't intended to be threatening to the status quo. Oops. Latin. There I go again. 
Sorry Kaz. 
While Aristotle said that a sign of wisdom is the ability to consider an idea without necessarily accepting it, I'm not foolish enough to think there won't be some for whom even the consideration itself is troublesome. To each their own. "Different opinions" is just another way of saying "individuality."