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Post by Filthy_Few ♂ on Oct 29, 2008 23:45:12 GMT -8
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Post by Bubbles_Few on Oct 30, 2008 6:24:42 GMT -8
Over the years I've managed to read all or most of the Bible, the Qur'an, the Bagvadhgita and the Torah, as well as less significant ones. What's always caught my attention is that they all identify the same qualities and weaknesses. What's complicating is that they've all been translated and--as part of the process--rewritten over time. As an example, I think it's the King James version of the bible, where the monks tried to reconcile the messages of Matthew, Luke, Paul and John when apparently the point was that they were quite discrete, and they were attempting to illustrate that our experience of events is unique and individual, hence the tenet of loving others, including our enemies. Many people don't realize that Mohammad was seen as the continuation of the message brought by Christ, and in fact it was often the followers of Mohammad that helped save Christians from persecution from tribal leaders like The Taliban. It's also interesting to note that Moses is at the basis of Christianity, Islam and Judaism.
These links are good discussion points, but even they will include interpretations. For instance, the delineation of "Yahweh," the original name of God by the Hebrews, is labeled "the one who is," where I've read that most linguistic scholars say a better translation is that the name is more of a verb that's best described as "is-be," or "to be" or even "being." The Greeks turned that into "agape," which is the precursor to "awe" which is a pretty good name for something indescribable. But by the time we get to Michaelango, it's "He" and that screwed women and ensured that we'd see "God" as something or someone outside of us, and in Mike the sculptors case, that was the old guy (the father of all things) with a beard on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.
If we took "God" to be the base energy from which all things emanate (what a physicist might call The Unified Field), then you could say that the "father" or even "mother" would be a reasonable metaphor. But it's still a metaphor. That being the case, then, the phrase "God created man in his own image" would mean that man grew from this infinite boundless energy, and that the "his" means the "man's" self-conception. So this energy creates a man, and he will see himself in whatever image he has of himself. As an example, this could range from anything from a man thinking he his the son of one couple, when in fact he is adopted, to a man feeling, to a man thinking he his British when in fact he's an Irishman whose parents told him otherwise for some reason, and on to someone acting insecure because he or she has insecure thoughts about his or herself. So the energy creates the being, which it turns into a personality and identity by virtue of its power of thought.
Fascinating, endless topic.
peace. bubs
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Post by Humpa_Few on Nov 1, 2008 1:20:06 GMT -8
This pamphlet was compiled by an interdenominational group of evangelical Christians concerned with Muslim-Christian dialogue. hmmmm more people that won't read national geo
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Post by Bubbles_Few on Nov 1, 2008 7:08:05 GMT -8
Which pamphlet?
peace. bubs
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Post by kittensinsanity on Nov 1, 2008 11:04:34 GMT -8
Pfft I see this whole "doomsday" thing as a cure for a disease called Humans , we come onto a planet deplete it of all is resources and kill everything and in the future if we dont blow up then we will probly do it to more planets. We kill ourselves for money , tear down trees for a piece of paper , where was commin logic when they decided to do that? o ya tear down the trees to quench or thirst of greed and then we die because we cant breathe REAL SMART ASSHOLES, I say this doomsday should come quicker.
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Post by Humpa_Few on Nov 2, 2008 2:13:23 GMT -8
Which pamphlet? peace. bubs at the end of the 99 truth fact articles that filthy posted |
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Post by Mepps_Few on Jan 1, 2009 11:50:41 GMT -8
Pfft I see this whole "doomsday" thing as a cure for a disease called Humans , we come onto a planet deplete it of all is resources and kill everything and in the future if we dont blow up then we will probly do it to more planets. We kill ourselves for money , tear down trees for a piece of paper , where was commin logic when they decided to do that? o ya tear down the trees to quench or thirst of greed and then we die because we cant breathe REAL SMART ASSHOLES, I say this doomsday should come quicker. You're pretty hung up on these trees. That coming from a guy who lives in the largest clear-cut in BC that once supported the biggest trees in the province. It's not the cutting of trees that is an issue with the global environment, most countries practice fairly intensive forestry (with the exception of some very poor 3rd world countries, and Russia who can't enforce their regs due to lack of $$). My biggest global concerns are "urban sprawl" (directly linked to population issues and the destruction of natural habitat) and the distribution of the distribution of global wealth (something like 3% of the world population holds 95+% of the world's monitary resources. |
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Post by Humpa_Few on Jan 1, 2009 14:57:51 GMT -8
3% of the world population holds 95+% of the world's monitary resources ...ya lets keep it that way you fuckin hippie
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Post by Synthetic on Jan 5, 2009 10:09:51 GMT -8
I agree with kittens...humanity is an STD... The world has fucked itself...spreading the disease further.
Anywhoooooo
Religion...I like watching ant hills burn??
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Post by FurFace_Few on Jan 8, 2009 9:47:20 GMT -8
WHO GIVES A SHIT,,,,,did I say that out loud??
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Post by Bubbles_Few on Jan 9, 2009 11:07:00 GMT -8
Everyone should just go rent the original The Day the Earth Stood Still.
peace. bubs
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Post by PuffA_Few on Jan 28, 2009 18:36:56 GMT -8
OK
There are no Gods.They are made up out of the imagination of people who did not know what lightning was or thunder, and then it was seen as a way to control those same people.
If there was a God then why was it not the first God that man thought of, and nobody knows that one's name anymore.
No sorry to burst the bubble, but we are still just a bunch of smarter apes than before.Well some of us.The FACTS are there for all to see and read.But if you choose to believe a God, be it Buddha,JC,Elvis,Thor,Apollo,Zeus than go ahead.Humans have never been able to agree on any global issues. If your worried about Mother Earth, there's a God for you, don't be, she will bounce back from what ever we throw at her,it,him.The earth has all the "time in the world" and we don't.So how about those Canucks?
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Post by Bubbles_Few on Feb 1, 2009 10:13:03 GMT -8
I think it's useful to point out that, in their own ways, each religion worships someone who transformed, whereas spirituality is when you pursue that transformation yourself--which each of the prophets promoted. But some religions, like the Christian ones for example, worship a God separate from us. The Buddhist or Taoist "God" is more like the rules behind Quantum Mechanics as they relate to the power of thought. It's not someone running things like a chess board for them. It's a system and everyone and everything is a part of it.
peace. bubs
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Post by PuffA_Few on Feb 1, 2009 10:27:33 GMT -8
North American Indians worship the land that feeds them, the animals that cloth them.There Gods or Spirits are the things all around them, the Earth,wind ,fire and water, not to be confused with the band. So man is actually killing "God" one carbon molecule after another. So Earth will just wipe out this Virus called man and start all over again and if man in some twist of fate survives, then we will have a whole new set of gods.
Or do we just need to wait for first contact and see what Quark from Planet Zelgarb has to offer in the way of gods.
I think we need to focus on one God, the one that sustains us and has from the beginning of man,EARTH oops to late we already fucked that one up..
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Post by Humpa_Few on Feb 1, 2009 13:50:35 GMT -8
and again I stress that you watch this videohttp://www.wimp.com/newinfo/
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Post by PuffA_Few on Feb 1, 2009 16:40:42 GMT -8
The FACTS are there for all to see and read. Like I said. I wish I could talk like that guy in the video.. |
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Post by Mobius_Few on Mar 8, 2009 9:43:29 GMT -8
 The evolution of human societal consciousness is a very slow yet very constant process which we can mark its (humanity/our own) progress/growth through the inception and changes within the perspectives of our religious constructs belief systems & control mechanisms. Bubbles exploration of the differences between spirituality & religion ie: self discovery, personal growth & understanding vs. obedience, ignorance/unquestioned faith and control is an exciting topic of exploration because it illustrates (to me) the next steps in growth/evolution of human[ity] consciousness. Ultimately, what religion claimed/practiced [if any] reduces to obsolescence, eclipsed by the ever expanding power & knowledge created by the exploration of self through the unconfined nature of spirituality. I believe divinity is within - an inward exploration and reflection of self. Where I [we] am[are] and where I [we] can go - intellecually, morally, ethically, etc. as an individual but more importantly, as a species; as a whole. The room for growth is infinite. Exciting topic indeed Filthy.  |
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The evolution of human societal consciousness is a very slow yet very constant process which we can mark its (humanity/our own) progress/growth through the inception and changes within the perspectives of our religious constructs belief systems & control mechanisms. Bubbles exploration of the differences between spirituality & religion ie: self discovery, personal growth & understanding vs. obedience, ignorance/unquestioned faith and control is an exciting topic of exploration because it illustrates (to me) the next steps in growth/evolution of human[ity] consciousness. Ultimately, what religion claimed/practiced [if any] reduces to obsolescence, eclipsed by the ever expanding power & knowledge created by the exploration of self through the unconfined nature of spirituality. 
