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Post by Mepps_Few on Aug 30, 2010 9:33:08 GMT -8
Tarsand = bad! Sorry Mech....but lying about killing a bunch of stupid ducks is one thing, but polluting a major watershed is unforgiveable. Are the face-less multi-national corporations from the US and Europe reaping all the profits going to clean all this up? I doubt it. I wonder when Albertans will wake up and realize that the royalty payments from these big foreign companies is simply blood money for killing the planet? Don't eat the fish! www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/08/30/oil-sands-athabasca-river.html#socialcomments |
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Post by IcemanFew on Aug 30, 2010 17:01:33 GMT -8
Sounds to me like those levels of pollutants were there before tar sand mining began. Every one of those so called pollutants are naturally in the ground, not added to the ground from mining. Besides, not Mech's fault, he just pulls wrenches.
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Post by Mepps_Few on Aug 30, 2010 22:10:10 GMT -8
1) So you read the industry-government report, not the U of A report...read them both then decide who you believe? Or do you just naturally trust our politicians and the execs at Sincrude....and BP for that matter?
2) I'm not blaming Mech. I'm blaming the faceless euro-american resource developers and their hypocritical shareholders who support campaigns to stop the seal hunt and grizzly bear hunt, but have no problem with polluting a river or spilling a few billion barrels of oil in the ocean every now and then in the name of profit!
Go find your own planet to kill....this one's taken!
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Post by KAZ_Few on Aug 31, 2010 9:37:20 GMT -8
I blame the French !!!!
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Post by HuheyGroove_Few on Aug 31, 2010 13:34:53 GMT -8
I blame Fluid-dynamics, gravity, newton's 2nd law, greed, and time.
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Post by Mechhd_Few on Aug 31, 2010 15:14:37 GMT -8
I think instead of blaming one industry or another just get down to the root cause of the distruction of our planet. Stop the clear cutting for building cities or making farm land. Stop killing and mistreating the animals to feed the masses. Stop all mining for everything that comes out of the ground. In other words get rid of all the people and the world will be saved.
Failure to do that than the world is doomed.
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Post by ---@1--- on Aug 31, 2010 18:17:30 GMT -8
"... I'm blaming the faceless euro-american resource developers..."
Funny I didn't know Canada sold Alberta to the euro-Americans, Oh that's right they didn't so I'm sure you can change that to the Canadian-euro-Americans. There's plenty of money going around in the oil industry, Canada and Canadians are receiving a good chunk of it too.
The blame also lies with each and every one of us who use oil and gas everyday to get around, fuel our homes or in the products we use. So when pointing fingers at multi national corporations be sure your in front of a mirror while doing it.
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Post by HuheyGroove_Few on Aug 31, 2010 19:08:18 GMT -8
I like oil. Sell me a 6000# truck that tows 8000#s that runs on air and I'll be all over it.....
Why are we bitching about this? We're all VERY in the know with IQs over 100. Well...most of us.
Oil will be king unless I need to actually start using my end-of-days stuff...and then, we're all fucked.
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Post by Mepps_Few on Sept 2, 2010 15:04:34 GMT -8
"... I'm blaming the faceless euro-american resource developers..." Funny I didn't know Canada sold Alberta to the euro-Americans, Oh that's right they didn't so I'm sure you can change that to the Canadian-euro-Americans. There's plenty of money going around in the oil industry, Canada and Canadians are receiving a good chunk of it too. The blame also lies with each and every one of us who use oil and gas everyday to get around, fuel our homes or in the products we use. So when pointing fingers at multi national corporations be sure your in front of a mirror while doing it. OK there are a few smaller players in the oil and gas industry that are Canadian, but the major players are American and British companies. And "Yes" Alberta did sell-out to these foreign investors. Maybe not the land, but the resources. Oddly enough, I just heard of a Canadian geological company getting permission to test drill near Mount St. Helens....that's cool! I agree with you that we are all to blame, with a caveat. Many of us would choose electric/solar or other forms of energy if it were made available. The technology has been here for decades....but guess what...the same bastards making all the $$ off the oil won't let that happen. I know my place in all this and I'm certainly a small player in the problem, but I cannot change until the people in power change their way of thinking. And Mech's right. These guys in power will never change their way of thinking until all the oil is gone. The simple greed of a handfull of people will kill this planet. |
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Post by Mepps_Few on Sept 2, 2010 15:11:01 GMT -8
I like oil. Sell me a 6000# truck that tows 8000#s that runs on air and I'll be all over it.....quote] The technology exists......they just won't let you have it until they figure how to make you pay for wind, sunshine and tides. |
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Post by Mepps_Few on Sept 16, 2010 8:25:47 GMT -8
Oh shit! Now the "Greenies" are getting pissed at Alberta! rethinkalberta.com/main.phpThis conglomerate of NGOs includes the Rainforest Action Network. These guys are well-known eco-terrorists and if they are involved, you know they are likely planning some sort of industrial sabotage. Mech - keep an eye out for long-haired, granola-eating hippie-types around the shop...they may be up to no-good! |
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Post by Mepps_Few on Sept 17, 2010 8:52:29 GMT -8
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Post by Mepps_Few on Sept 17, 2010 9:50:49 GMT -8
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Post by Mechhd_Few on Sept 17, 2010 18:51:48 GMT -8
Is it just Me or is there anyone else out there that thinks Mepps has something agaisnt the tar sands
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Post by Humpa_Few on Sept 17, 2010 22:35:18 GMT -8
mmm tumors..... if theres one thing I hate more than ignorant right wing christian assholes who fuck the planet in the name of their real god (money) and lie about any effect they have on the enviroment its ignorant left wing craizies who make up all kinds of bullshit to sell their agendas to the public . I want to ride my motorcycles eat meat, drink, fuck, fight, hold the light and carry out the dead. too bad future generations are going to have to pay for it but what to do
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Post by Mepps_Few on Oct 26, 2010 11:06:23 GMT -8
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Post by Mepps_Few on Oct 29, 2010 14:32:49 GMT -8
"... I'm blaming the faceless euro-american resource developers..." Funny I didn't know Canada sold Alberta to the euro-Americans, Oh that's right they didn't so I'm sure you can change that to the Canadian-euro-Americans. There's plenty of money going around in the oil industry, Canada and Canadians are receiving a good chunk of it too. The blame also lies with each and every one of us who use oil and gas everyday to get around, fuel our homes or in the products we use. So when pointing fingers at multi national corporations be sure your in front of a mirror while doing it. Just a factual follow-up of 2010 mergers and acquisitions in the Canadian oil and gas industry. Almost 50% were foreign. And I stand corrected. I shouldn't refer to these foreign interests as Euro-American.....they are Euro-Asian-Aussi-American. And yes, I continue to look at myself in the mirror every morning just before I get on my bicycle to go to work. It's not much, but at least I look better than the fat bastard that lives 3 houses down the street who works in the same office and drives his F350 to work every day. Foreign interest in Canadian oil and gas: Acquirer Seller Asset Value Sinopec (China) ConocoPhillips (U.S.) Syncrude oilsands (9% interest) $4.65 billion Apache (U.S.) BP (U.K.) oil and gas $3.4 billion Total (France) UTS Energy (Cdn.) oilsands $1.5 billion BP Value Creation Inc. (Cdn.) oilsands $900 million China Investment Corporation Penn West Energy (Cdn.) oilsands (45% interest) $817 million Harvest Operations Corp. (South Korea) Newmont Mining (U.S.) oilsands $374 million Mitsubishi (Japan) Penn West natural gas (50% interest) $250 million STX Energy (South Korea) Encana natural gas $152 million Clampett Energy (Australia) Madison Energy (Cdn.) oil and gas $8 million (Source: Sayer Energy Advisors) Read more: www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2010/10/29/canadian-oil-gas-megers-acquisitions.html#ixzz13mxLkW5R |
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